METTA HOUR PODCAST • Episode 195 • Barbara Graham & Hugh Delehanty

Husband and wife, Barbara Graham and Hugh Delehanty join Sharon Salzberg for Episode 195 of the Metta Hour Podcast. Barbara is a New York Times bestselling author, essayist, and  playwright. She is the author of several books, including her 2022 novel “What Jonah Knew.” Hugh Delehanty is a #1 New York Times bestselling author, a National Magazine Award-winning editor, and a certified meditation teacher with more than 25 years of practice. In this episode, Sharon, Hugh and Barbara discuss:

• How Barbara & Hugh came to spiritual practice
• How creativity can be informed by meditation
• Finding joy in creative expression
• Cultural assumptions about creativity
• Training capacities we don’t think we have
• Confronting our creative fears
• The seed for Barbara’s recent book
• Writing the thing you’re most afraid of
• How visual art informed Hugh as a writer
• The mystery of reincarnation
• Hugh’s work in sports writing
• Phil Jackson’s coaching ethos
• Compassion in sports
• Leonard Cohen
• Trusting our creative impulses

The episode closes with a meditation led by Hugh on open awareness. Learn more about Hugh’s work at and get yourself a copy of Barbara’s new book, “What Jonah Knew” at

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